The Power of Care with Lori Hogan

This week, Josh is joined by Lori Hogan, the co-founder of Home Instead Senior Care. They dive into discussion about how to create a culture of faith in a business, the power found in caring for people, and her experience in creating a business from just an idea. This episode will speak to anyone who needs encouragement to simply continue caring for others.

Transcript

Josh Dotzler:   0:03
excited for another episode on the eye to podcast and always excited to sit down with individuals who just have amazing stories. And God is used in so many different ways. I am joined today by lorry Hogan. Laurie, thank you so much for being here. Excited to have you on the podcast.

Lori Hogan:   0:19
I was excited that you invited me. Josh. That's so

Josh Dotzler:   0:22
awesome. I love your story. Love what you and your husband have been a part of building for some time now just for our listeners. Give us a picture. Uh, you know, what do you do? A little bit of your family, your background, And then we'll jump into some more of your story.

Lori Hogan:   0:39
Okay. Well, I am Ah, married. I have Ah, husband Paul. My husband, Paul and I have four Children, and the oldest is Lake Lyn. She's 30. She works in the business with us at home. Instead. Senior care. And I have Ah, she's our actually getting her PhD in social gerontology. So

Josh Dotzler:   0:59
no clue what that means.

Lori Hogan:   1:00
You know, it's working with the aging population. And what's so exciting about that is we've always wanted one of our kids to go into the business. And so we're very excited that Jews she is making a difference. Ah, and the lives of seniors. And she travels around and does a lot of work that way and represents home instead. Very well. So? And then we have. Ah, daughter McKell. She is married. She is Michael Gorman Now. She married a Scottish boy from Scotland. She's an actress, and so is he. They live in New York and living their dreams. That's exciting. Our son Martin. He is about to be married next month, and we're so excited about that. He's in the hunting fishing gaming industry. Very exciting. And then our daughter, Jacqueline is the nurse. She's 24. She got married in June. So lots of weddings are pretty busy. We have been, which has been exciting. And she's a nurse. She's working for fusion right now. Yeah,

Josh Dotzler:   1:59
so you got you got You got a full family.

Lori Hogan:   2:01
That's a little bit about the family background. And so I am co founder, along with my husband, Paul, for home instead. Senior care way started 25 years ago. So, um, do you want me to go into that story?

Josh Dotzler:   2:15
I mean, definitely want to jump into it. Number one. It's amazing. 25 years ago, you started home instead. Care to see the trajectory the business has been on while raising a family during many of those years? Maybe Just talk about that reality for you. Especially as a mother, as a working mom. What was that like for you?

Lori Hogan:   2:35
Okay, is little crazy. Be honest, Josh. As you can imagine, you have a family of three. So you know what it's like. Well, my husband was working. Um uh, yet the corporate headquarters that merry maids when we first got this brainstorm of, um, opening up a home instead. Senior care that was our dream. To own our own business and help as many seniors as we possibly can because of the experience with his grandmother, who is 89 years old. And she was aging. Well, she was in her own one bedroom apartment down the street from his mother's house, where he grew up. When we're Paul grew up and she has his grandma, Grandma Man heart became so weak that she couldn't get out of her chair anymore. She wasn't eating properly. Not getting enough nutrition became really weak. The family decided that they were gonna get together, and they decided on one thing, Josh, that Grandma Man heart was not going to go into a nursing home. Wow. She would move up the ST Katherine's home. Ah, where Paul grew up and lived there for maybe what seemed to be one more year old life. And so the whole family rapidly rallied around her. So she had daughters that were nurses would come and help either and mixtures that she was taking their medications. And then the rest of the family. Grand kids become fixed meals and sit down and visit with her. Take her for ah, walk around the block. Or so she gained so much strength that she ended up living 11 more years. So we got to celebrate her 1/100 birthday, and we kept thinking what to other families do that don't are not like a Catholic family with 12 Children, 50 grandchildren, 51 great grandkids. What do they dio? We decided that we wanted to be family where maybe family lived far away and couldn't help there their grand parents or their parents and give them that assistance not to take the place of family, but to enhance the family and their their care. So we decided that we would start home instead senior care. And at the time, we had three Children and, you know, all under neath five years old or whatever. And, um so my husband quit his job. His mother thought he was absolutely crazy. We're doing that. But she supported us so much and let us start the business in her home. And, um, and where we were right near Grandma Man heart so we can look in on her and be there for her. My mother was our very first employee because she used to work for Paul it merry maids and was his assistant. They work together so well. I mean, really, how many? Um, husbands couldn't work with their mother in law, right? But they had a great relationship. They kicked it, hit it off really well. So that's how we started. Home instead was out of the need. We saw a need and filled a knish where you know, the medical world, you don't have to be a doctor or nurse to open up a can of soup or push a vacuum cleaner. Turn off the stove. Um, sometimes seniors just need a little extra help to remain in their own home, where 90% of all seniors one remain right. So that's how we kind of started home instead, that's amazing. Was out of the need of our own family.

Josh Dotzler:   5:55
I absolutely love that because like you said it was, it was out of a real need. And it was it was personal. I mean, the risk you took, you had three kids. Your husband, Paul, quits his job to start this company and the family that rallied around you guys. I think you know, many times when we talk about influence and people using what God has given them Ah, lot of times it's where the needs are right in front of us, right? And so you wanted to start a business. There was a need, a family member who needed some care. And you guys just started the process over the course of however many more years, 11 years of caring for her and seeing her come to life and get strong and healthy. And you take this model out of meeting a practical need and start to build a business around it. Exactly. The power of care, which is for me, what your story represents when it comes to our influence. There is power when we care for people in the right way. So you guys build this business 25 years later, just tow. Give those listening perspective. Give us a snapshot of your business today, and then we'll talk about how you got there. But just give us a picture of what your business looks like today.

Lori Hogan:   7:03
Okay, well, we figured if if it could work in Omaha, Nebraska, why couldn't it work anywhere else? Because, as you know, there's aging people everywhere, right? And the population size is growing by leaps and bounds. 10,000 day Senior turning 65 older. But so were we started as Franchising because that's what my husband did and Mary mates. And he studied Franchising at U. N L and decided that that's the fastest way to grow. The business is by having a great training program that you can attract others who have that desire or feel a mission to serve seniors and who loves seniors and want to help their communities. And so it started off with my uncle from Lincoln. It was that Thanksgiving. Love the families, actually, exactly that. Love and support your family is so important as you know you're surrounded by your family. So my uncle from Lincoln and they said, OK, we've watched you for a year and we know that, you know, Franchising. We would like to do this in Lincoln. And so, Ed, in a fevered pitch, we put together a training program around the, um, dining room table at Paul's mom's house. And, um, we put together this training program, put my Gant knuckle through it and help them, since it was great because they were so close, yes, and got them started in their business. And then it was a, um, a fraternity brother of my husband's from Kansas Kansas City that wanted to dio a franchise. And then it was a brother in law down in Georgia, and then, pretty soon after several of them, there was somebody that we didn't know and he was from Utah that wanted to start a home instead. And let me tell you, we were terrified because we felt like we were responsible for some of these people's livelihood. And will they make it? Will we make it and some of the thought processes that went through that. But we truly believe that God had brought us to this point. God had planted that seed in our minds and that I I think after watching merry maids, their growth, that we knew that this could be really big. So now what? Started with one franchise in Omaha, Nebraska. We have over 1200 across the the world. We're in 14 countries now, and, um, so it's it's really exciting. I never knew that I would be in a position where I am meeting people from all over the world and influencing people all over the world, Um, who who have a love for seniors and helping their communities age successfully. So it is so exciting, so enriching, so gratifying. And we love it.

Josh Dotzler:   9:56
That's amazing. So how many? Just from a staff perspective, employees perspective? How many employees do you guys have that helped carry out that work all over the world?

Lori Hogan:   10:05
Oh, my, that's a good question. Well, let's see. At our global headquarters here in Omaha, we have over 200. Um, and then when you add up a lot of the caregivers, the awesome, amazing caregivers. There's about 90,000 around the world that are helping or that are in the homes of seniors each and every day. We're doing over 90 million hours of care just this year alone. Comma, you know, we feel like McDonald's when they reach the $1,000,000,000 burgers served. Yeah, we feel so blessed to be helping those seniors and their families. That's the key. Is family's heir so relieved to have that help in their home? And and, ah, but it's not always their own home. It could be the child's homer could be assisted, living or nursing home. We can follow them right in and and help assistant be the the extra eyes to give them. You know, that peace of mind that we all need to have as we're caring for our seniors.

Josh Dotzler:   11:05
Come on. So, like, clap over here. Look at my sister. Create over here like I mean, this is number one. This is why I want to sit down and talk and just here and share your story because it's so powerful and the impact you guys are having right now, 90 million hours of care that's giving

Lori Hogan:   11:26
that crazy. That's crazy. I can't even love it.

Josh Dotzler:   11:29
Adam, those numbers. But I love to the picture of you guys starting in one home with one person in over 25 years how you've seen that grow and expand. And I love your model of Franchising and and in the fact that you started with family members and friends because they kind of understood you guys and price that you wanted to carry on and they were able to reproduce that culture. Talk about your culture. Oh, okay. And your values. And when it comes to care, what does that look like? Because that that has to be essential to the business that you're providing.

Lori Hogan:   12:08
My heart is just racing now it's Oh, my gosh. Um, okay, I'll talk about the culture. We definitely have a carrying culture. Yeah, very loving culture. And I think this business automatically just kind of attracts that kind of person. And always, Josh were praying that God provides us people who truly care about the seniors and have a love for them and a deep sense of mission. When we started home instead, we knew that we were going to take God as our business partner because we knew with him at the helm, How could we fail? And then we decided

Josh Dotzler:   12:44
to go. I got a pause right there because you just said God as your business partner, I don't know that I've ever heard anybody else say that before. No way. I've heard people say, You know, I wanna bring got into my business environment and I wanna try to live out the values that I know to be true of my faith. But God, as your business partner is a radical concept, and I think it is. It's so powerful because we see a picture and you guys off. What happens when God is our business partner? Absolutely. And you can have a thriving, flourishing business with God as your primary partner. I mean, that's a very powerful ground. Have you ever done before? I'm insurance. Every drop in the Michael.

Lori Hogan:   13:29
That's amazing. Thank you. Well, you know, it's it's him and give credit where credit is due because all good things come from him and ah. But then we decided that we were going to establish four core values that are very important to us. there are guiding principles at home instead, and number one is to honor God and all we D'oh. Um, we know that we you know, we have a lot of decisions to make every day in our businesses. And, you know, we really is that honoring of God, if it's not better not be doing it. So we really adjust everything to that on our second core value is treat each other with dignity and respect. Sometimes that's not always easy. D'oh d'oh! When there's hard decisions or just different people that you work with and and such, But and even as we treat our seniors and our elders that they needed to be treated with dignity and respect their greatest generation, our third core value is to encourage growth in ourselves and others. And I will tell you that was probably one of the hardest core values to really uphold in the business. And I'll tell you, why is because, you know, people are different stages in their life of growth and development, and how do you bring value to that and give them something that can really help them grow? So we're always looking at training programs and leadership programs now, and especially now that our businesses have gotten much larger than we ever dreamed that they would. And then how do you develop those people? Toe handle multiple businesses and, ah, lot of people and such. So that's always been a big challenge, the last core values to build value in our service to others. And that is always fun, exciting, invigorating, always having to be creative and how we deliver the best quality care. Thio are our seniors, but also, um, for our franchise owners and partners internationally and building value to them as well, so that we stay relevant and on top of things with, you know, the next technologies. And that's been a huge challenge. Jocelyn in the business keeping up with the technology I

Josh Dotzler:   15:47
can't imagine. I can't imagine just the way our world is changing and so fast I'm considered, you know, I'm a millennial, and I can't keep up

Lori Hogan:   15:55
with you are much better than I am about your little watch on. I don't know.

Josh Dotzler:   16:01
I use this this smart watch to tell toe. Yeah, so but everything's just changing so much. I love those four values. How do you coach teach. Reproduce those within your teams and especially as you think globally. I mean, you're not just thinking locally. You guys were doing it globally. How do you make sure everybody's living those out on a consistent basis?

Lori Hogan:   16:24
That's interesting, because we realize that repetition is important. Yes. You know, if you only stayed at once and not again, or put it up on a wall and never talk about it again, Um, you're doing yourself a disc justice. Just dis justice. You've got to be talking about it all the time toe where somebody could even mock you and repeat it in your voice. And so our core values are on little plaques on everybody's desk, there, up on our walls. And I will tell you, Josh, it is internal only. Okay, um, we're not advertising it, although I like to speak about it, but we're not in advertisements that that's not where we're about, but we want people to know where we come from, who we are. So as we interview people, we sit down with them or franchise owners and, um, even our some of our caregivers what have you are staff members and we tell them these are core values. This is important to us. And if you can identify with those and you know this might be right for you and it might not be right for you, and that's okay and we don't impress them upon everybody as faras, like our franchise owners, they can make up their own core values. But we tell them it's important that you do this so that people understand you and who you are. And so anyway, it's It's been something that I have realized that it's not just me and Paul's responsibility, um, to continue Thio, preach the culture, live the culture and our guiding principles. It's everybody's responsibility. And I think everybody realizes that and our system at an organization, and they take that responsibility very seriously. I think that, you know, and of course you have to have fun along the way. Don't you? Can't be all just serious because there's some serious stuff that people deal with on a daily basis. You know, I admire those caregivers. I don't know, Josh, if I could do what they dio, it is so humbling What? Our caregivers on a daily basis, how they care for those seniors. And, um, I'm just I think they have a different DNA. Actually, they are, um, beautiful souls. And we appreciate our caregiver so very much, very much.

Josh Dotzler   18:43
That's so good. Lean in tow, one of your values just because I think there's so many business leaders out there and the partnership with God and your your number one value being to honor God To me, that's so interesting, because in the culture in the world we live in, even in the nonprofit world, you know, there's there's, there's these lines between business and faith and what you believe. And so when you're hiring people and you start to share those values,

Lori Hogan:   19:11
how do you

Josh Dotzler:   19:12
talk about that? Like just practically, What does that look like for you guys?

Lori Hogan:   19:17
Um, I remember sitting in AA lot of interviews with people across the table, and we would tell them that, you know, honoring God and all we do. It's a very important core value, and we want to share that with you. And I remember one gentleman going. He starts fidgeting and he goes, um, I don't always go to church all the time. I'm like, That's okay. I just want you to Do you believe in a higher power and goes, Oh, yes, I do. I d'oh eso We get some of that sometimes, but we just I just feel like, you know, God has had his hand upon us all. I mean, always from the start. And we saw this vision that he gave to us and and nurtured it within us. Um, and the just the love of him has just grown. And I just feel like I I can hardly talk about the business without, you know, honoring honoring him. Not so good, Because I learned, um, one time I'll share with you, Josh. Um, a lot of people In the beginning, when we were growing very quickly, people would say to us, even our friends are close friends and Oh, my gosh, You're doing so well. I can't believe how fast you've grown, and and a lot of times I go Oh, yeah, Yeah, like, yeah, we're doing this all right. And God literally tapped me on the shoulder and said, Laurie, who's doing this? And I went, Oh, God, you're right. It's you. It's all you. Thank you for empowering us. Thank you for bringing people along who are much more smarter and more creative than we are. But you have been doing this and from then on out, you know, I always make sure I smelled of okay, but then hand it to him. So that's so what I've learned. And it's been one of the biggest lessons that I've

Josh Dotzler:   21:06
learned. And I think that's one of the reasons God's continuing to use you and your husband and your business in such a powerful way. I love that you shared that in one of the things I love is you're not trying to force got onto people, but you're letting them know what you guys believe, right? And we're gonna honor God. This is a culture where we're gonna honor God and everything that we do. And we're gonna leave the results to him, though they watch what happens.

Lori Hogan:   21:33
I will tell you one time, um, I've had this conversation with Paul, and he's very mindful of other religions in our organization, as we should be and be very respectful of them are second core value, right. Um and there have been times when I say, you know Oh, but we're Christians and we should, you know, do this or that. And Paul says we need Thio. Be respectful of other religions. And so I am mindful of that. That is

Josh Dotzler:   22:03
important. Yes. So good. Yesterday my six year old daughter had her friend over and she came to my wife and she said, Can I tell her about Jesus gonna tell about you so intent about Eleanor. But then we heard her talking to her in different tones and different voices. We said, Would you just be Jeez, uh, don't be worried about what you're saying. Just just be nice. Be kind. Be gentle. Yes. And sometimes I think we are so focused on telling people what we believe example exam.

Lori Hogan:   22:34
And I think that's what Paul is also telling you. And we can lead others by example. And that's been a big part of our mission. To is you be the light of Christ and, um, extend that love to others.

Josh Dotzler:   22:48
Yeah, you talked about the caregiver and just how intense that role is. And you wrote a book? Yes. Called strength for the moment. Yes, I believe yes, straight and And specifically wrote it for the caregiver. Talk about that book because I love you know, we could only give what we have and caregivers give so much they dio And this book was meant for the care giver. So tell us a little bit about that book.

Lori Hogan:   23:15
Yes, it is an inspiration for family caregivers. We have a program at home. Instead, it's the caregiver of the year program, but that's a professional caregiver that works for us, and then we crown them at our convention in Omaha in April. Um, it goes through a nomination process, and we get to read these amazing stories about our caregivers and and how they care for the seniors and how they go above and beyond. And what they do is they find out, what does that senior enjoy doing, or maybe in the past, find out about their past and their their businesses. One was a farmer, and so they would take them in the car, go for a ride in the country, and even one had a friend who lived on a farm so that they could take them there and see the cows and the pigs, and really relate to what they used to do and found that such joy in that. But family caregivers, they don't always get that accolades. They're not crowned the caregiver of the year, and you know how How do they cope? How do they get by? It's not just physical care. It's also emotional and spiritual care. And so we have a couple books on the physical side of caring, um, for seniors. But I wanted to write a book that was talking about the spiritual emotional side to her so many emotions that people feel it's unreal, like their stories in the book that talk about, um, I'm the only one out of my brothers and sisters that will care for my parents. Nobody's there helping me and they feel that resentment. There's another one, Yoshino Nakajima, who is from Japan. Her parents lived in Japan, but she was here in the United States and she felt such guilt that she wasn't able to be there personally to do the care and that her other sibling had to when it was really her responsibility as the oldest daughter to care for her parents. And she felt that guilty that she wasn't there caring. So there's a lot of that, you know, the guilty emotions, the exhaustion, just the pure exhaustion. Maybe they're working another job and they're caring for their parents that sandwich generation, as everybody knows and and they're just nonstop. And But then there's the joyous sight of caregiving getting to spend time with their parents or love one or spouse that, um, in their last days or years. And that is just a joyful time, too. So there's a whole gamut in some days. It's like a roller coaster, especially those people who have loved ones with Alzheimer's disease. That is, um, that is a very difficult situation at times when they may be combative. Um, and you know, one minute they need Lord, they're praying. Lord, just help me to find the joy in this situation or a diagnosis that they received. And they're like, Lord, help me, give me knowledge and wisdom as toe what are the next steps to d'oh? So this book really addresses, but in stories and they're short stories because I got my attention span sometimes is short, so I love the short stories and it tells those emotions. But it tells about the story, and it gives Scripture that goes along with the story. I actually had my Bible study girlfriends get together up in Colorado at my house up there, and we, um, did a little women's retreat and we poured over and prayed over these stories for these families. And then they helped me find the right Scripture for each story that would be uplifting, encouraging, and then help me to write the prayers to There's a prayer at the end of each story to give them that encouragement. So it was It's a beautiful. It was a beautiful book and 52 stories, so you could use it as a devotional if

Josh Dotzler:   27:08
you wanted tea. Oh, I love that strong drink for the moment. How long did it take you to write that?

Lori Hogan:   27:13
Ah, couple years. And of course, I had a little help from a writing team that we would get together every week and, um, go over stories and interviews. And it was a lot of fun. It was a labor of love. Yes, it was great.

Josh Dotzler:   27:27
Do you have a story or two that really sticks out to you of somebody who maybe read it and it greatly impacted them, inspired them to keep going down the journey of care.

Lori Hogan:   27:37
You know, what I find is that people identify with some of these stories like, Oh, my gosh, that was me not the only one. I'm not the only one. And that's another reason why I wrote this book is toe Let people know that you are not the only one. There are so many people going through the same thing and to use it even as a support group for family caregivers. And, um, I even liketo give it to people you know you can't do maybe the caring for your friend's parents. But maybe you give that book to them and give them encouragement or whatnot. But, um, it is it is inspiring. Teoh, just let people know that you know it. You are not alone and that the Lord is there to help you. And and Scripture is there to help you. And prayer also is a big key.

Josh Dotzler:   28:25
Come on. So, uh, I'll tell you what. This has been so fun and just hearing your story. We're talking about influence to impact and how God's given us all different levels of influence in different areas. And he calls us to use that influence to impact the world and to see how you and your husband have been so intentional with the influence he's given. You threw home instead senior care and how you've continued to put him at the center of it. And the results and the impactor haven't globally. Remember, you tell me a story when we met of some of the seats, you've been able to sit in our table's You've been around? Yes, politically. I don't remember. Is that the White House? Or I mean, just crazy. So space is you guys have been in

Lori Hogan:   29:09
and my husband is on the world to mention counsel, we have a seat at the table at the G 100 the World Economic Forum, Um that our CEO, Jeff Huber, just came back from. And you know what the subject is really highly talked about is aging the demographics 90. I mean, there's gonna be 80 milion seniors by the year 2030. And who is going to do the caring? And Josh, it's you, the millennials who we're gonna be caring for us on. And I think that's one of the things my daughter, who is the millennial. A swell is out there, hoping Thio help others bring awareness to seniors because it's gonna affect every single business in our community one way or another. And it's good to be aware of that. We have a program called Ready to Care and It's online. You can get it on your phone thes air care missions and their simple that first care mission. Josh is say hello to a senior. The next one could be, um, open the door for a senior. And the next week it might be, um, have a meal with a senior. And so it's bringing more awareness, and we're hoping to change the face of aging that way.

Josh Dotzler:   30:25
Come on. Yeah, I just I love here in this stuff, and I love the heart behind all of it. You and your husband have been very philanthropic, and you've given so much back to the community. Talk about how do you guys go about making decisions on howto give and steward? The resource is that God has given you. Oh, my

Lori Hogan:   30:45
goodness. Ah, lot of it is impact relationships. Um, and of course, we give to senior related organizations and we have ah, home instead. Senior care Foundation. We have a program gives 65 that helps nonprofits. And a lot of the senior related nonprofits are tiny all around the United States. And now we're into Canada. And so this helps them to have a platform that they can help raise monies. And then we, um, also donate to them as well. Um, and we are actually trying Thio, um, raise some money for it as well. And we have, ah, $1,000,000 match going on for that will honor of our 25th anniversary. But other in the community there so many needs. And I know the first time I met you was with abide and at the Hope Center. And so those air some of my very big interests helping youth I've always been in, um I've always loved helping youth and and very much involved in those organizations. Um, my brother, um, when I was growing up, there was four of us in the family, and I say waas, my brother j passed away 19 years ago, Um, he was mentally handicapped, and since his passing, after he had passed, we, my mom and dad and us kids decided that the memorial money was going to go to help start a camp out at Camp Carroll. Jury hauling in his name. It's the J Know Vicky program for young adults who are handicapped disabled. Um, he enjoyed camping. And so we thought, Let's let other families and young adults enjoy that as well. And so we helped do the seed money for that. And that was a total God thing because as we approach them and told them what we wanted to do with this money tears around the table and we're like, What's going on? You know, we they said we had hired a director for this to start this, but we didn't have the seed money for it. And we're just, like chills up and down our bodies. So I'm very involved in organizations that deal with handicapped disabled. That's where my heart is and, you know, just friendships, relationships that we have built so many great causes out there that we enjoy giving, too. And oh, ma ha is a very philanthropic community, which we are very blessed. I've even heard outsiders tell us that that Omaha's very philanthropic, so on the work you guys do is amazing. I just love what you all D'oh! With youth and very inspiring.

Josh Dotzler:   33:25
Thank you. Well, you guys have been a huge part of Omaha LCE philanthropic community and your business. Your work has been so impactful for our city as a whole. Thanks so much for spending time to just share your story with us. Honestly, I know so many people are gonna be inspired and encouraged to use what they have. If people wanna follow you if they want to, maybe find your book or give to the foundation or find out more information. Where can they go toe to get your guys information?

Lori Hogan:   33:54
They can go to home instead dot com. That's where a lot of our information is housed. And there's also a website on there that is caregiver stress dot com. So if somebody out there is caring for a loved one, they're a bit stressed or what have you? But we have lots of free resource is for families to tap into. Great resource is even videos that talk about even like independence issues. Like, when is it time to take away the keys and how can you do that? And, um, there's just a wealth of information We feel a social responsibility. Thio help families care for their seniors because it's going to take all of us. It's going to take the body of Christ to help all the seniors that are turning 65 older and in the years to come. And so we feel like we're positioned really well to help those families succeed. Because that's what we want to do is to help our loved ones and give them the best care is possible. So,

Josh Dotzler:   34:50
so good. I'm Startinto understand why our parents had 14 Children? Oh,

Lori Hogan:   34:56
yeah. Overachievers. Say, My God, A lot of care. Yeah, Exactly. Exactly. You'll be caring for that. Yeah,

Josh Dotzler:   35:05
well, they've cared for us in so many ways. Well, Laurie, thank you so much for being

Lori Hogan:   35:09
with us. Bless you and all. You do, Josh, your family. It's so fun to meet them.

Josh Dotzler:   35:14
Appreciated way. We won't encourage anybody. You want to check out other episodes? You could go to josh Dantzler dot com or go wherever there are podcasts available Way. Say it all the time. You not called to do everything, but you are called to do something. So find out what God has given you influence and use that influence to impact the world around you.